My Female Students Don’t Seem As Impressed With Me As They Used To
INT. DAY. A bucolic college campus; a book-strewn corner office. Two MALE PROFESSORS, HANK and SMITTY, have their feet up on their respective desks at the end of a long day. Their faces are haggard and drawn. Even their elbow patches look tired. HANK sighs.
SMITTY: “You look tired, Hank.”
HANK: “I feel tired, Smitty.”
SMITTY: “Drink?”
HANK: “Don’t mind if I do.”
SMITTY passes HANK a small brown bottle. HANK takes a contemplative sip.
HANK: “It’s getting harder and harder to awe these inexperienced female teenagers these days, Smitty.”
SMITTY: “Tell me about it, Hank.”
HANK: “Just yesterday, in one of my intro classes, I used the word ‘problematic’ in a sentence — real casual, just to let them know I’m one of the good guys — and not one of them stayed after the lecture to ask me just what I meant by that or to see if they could borrow the conspicuously dog-eared copy of Pedagogy of the Oppressed I like to leave on my desk in case any female students want to borrow it.”
SMITTY passes the bottle back to HANK.
SMITTY: “Things are bad all over.”
HANK: “You know, it’s very important to me that I be thought of as down.”
SMITTY: “Amen.”
HANK: “That copy has my phone number in it. You know, the old ‘write your phone number on the front page of a copy you lend to female students only under the “IF LOST PLEASE RETURN TO” bubble’ gag?”
SMITTY: “It’s a great gag.”
HANK passes the bottle back to SMITTY.
HANK: “It’s a damn great gag. My father used it, and his father used it — not in Pedagogy of the Oppressed, obviously. Whatever was working at the time. Leonard Abbott or someone, I guess.”
SMITTY: “Right.”
HANK: “They always come for the book. They’ve never known anyone who wears pants with a belt and reads books about oppressed pedagogues. They always come for the book and then I tell them about another book they just have to read after they finish it, and then I forgot the book in my office, and then I can start emailing them drunk on Christmas afternoon telling them about my bad back and how my wife has never read…never read…”
SMITTY: “Borges?”
HANK: “Yeah. Borges.”
SMITTY: “That’s real rough, Hank.”
HANK: “Or I wait to corner her at a faculty party and say something uncomfortable and real quiet about what she’s wearing, so nobody hears me but her, and she starts to wonder if even she heard me right.”
SMITTY: “They love that. They love that almost as much as they love their Molly drugs and their Pokemons, those female students.”
HANK: “Or I take her aside the second or third week and tell her I think she’s got real potential, real potential for greatness, then after she disagrees with me about something real minor…[laughs]…minor…I tell her I’m disappointed in her lack of open-mindedness and give her a C.”
SMITTY: “I tell mine their boyfriends don’t appreciate them.”
HANK: “I get pills for that bad back, you know.”
HANK rummages around in his drawer. SMITTY pulls an orange pill case out of his jacket pocket.
SMITTY: [shaking the case suggestively] “These pills?”
HANK: “You elaborate polefucked son of a bitch.”
SMITTY: [grinning] “You’re not the only one whose wife doesn’t read Borges.”
HANK: “Just works a full-time job with health insurance and raises my children.”
SMITTY: “Back pill, Hank?”
HANK: “Don’t mind if I do, Smitty.”
The two of them enjoy a quiet pill.
SMITTY: “The classics aren’t working like they used to, Hank.”
HANK: “You’re telling me.”
SMITTY: “I ask myself sometimes — what did I get this degree in comparative literature for, if not to intimidate and impress a bunch of young women who until very recently were still in high school?”
HANK: “S’a good question. Damn good question.”
HANK passes the bottle back to SMITTY.
SMITTY: “Because I sure as hell didn’t get it to compare a bunch of literature.”
They laugh.
SMITTY: [softly, almost to himself] “Compare a bunch of literatures at each other.”
HANK: “That’s not why I got into the business. No, sir. I got it so I could stand up in front of a group of mostly impressionable and anxious girls less than half my age and make them listen to me talk about how I proposed to my first fiancé and to deliver long, impassioned monologues about The Red Knight I memorized fourteen years ago.”
SMITTY: “I didn’t mind the work, though, Hank. As long as I could go to bed at night knowing that at least one girl who feeds herself with a school-sponsored meal plan was impressed with me. That’s all the thanks I needed. The admiration of that girl who has very little to compare me to, and also tenure.”
HANK: [solemnly] “And also tenure.”
SMITTY: “But mostly the admiration. Let’s say 70/30 admiration/tenure. As long as female adolescents with drinking problems were incredibly impressed by the sight of a grown man doing his job, that was enough for me. As long as all I had to do was remember a few passable lines of Virgil to quote offhand and watch their eyes go soft with longing, that was all I needed to keep coming back.”
HANK: “You know what the worst part about college girls is? The part of it that’s the worst part about college girls?”
SMITTY: [shaking his head] “Nope. Tell me, Hanky.”
HANK: [pointing to himself] “Me, I get older, but they stay the same a…same amount of uncomfortable with my forward and personal behavior.”
SMITTY: “Didn’t used to be that way. Nope. Used to be as long as you had a few streaks of grey at the temple and a complete set of Baudelaire and you could write your own ticket. Not nowadays. Nowadays they want to do well on your tests and receive thoughtful, qualitative feedback about their work, and that’s it. Cold, hard transactions — in and out of the classroom, without a second thought for our starving souls. Is that what we’re here for? Just to teach and then go home?”
HANK: “Not even a first thought for them, even. It’s not enough that we’ve done things like gone through an artistic phase or bought a house or remembered the decade they were born in. What do they want?”
SMITTY begins to laugh uncontrollably.
HANK: “What? What is it?”
SMITTY manages to calm himself down with an effort.
HANK: “You all right?”
SMITTY: “It’s three o’clock, isn’t it?”
HANK: “Yeah. Why?”
SMITTY: “Aren’t you supposed to be teaching a seminar right now?”
HANK begins to laugh as he realizes the same thing.
HANK: “Fuck. Yeah.”
HANK begins laughing harder and harder until even SMITTY grows curious.
SMITTY: “What?”
HANK: “You’re supposed to be in seminar, too.”
They laugh together.
SMITTY: “Maybe being late will impress them.”
HANK: “Something has to, Smitty.”
SMITTY: “Something will, Hank. Sooner or later, we’ll find something that will.”
SMITTY passes the bottle back to HANK.
FADE TO BLACK
Tags: hank and smitty, kill your male mentors, male professors, the academy, the admiration economy, the old "write your phone number on the front page of a copy you lend to female students only under the "IF LOST PLEASE RETURN TO" bubble" gag
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THIS. ALL OF THIS. This is amazing.
Man, this makes me glad I went to a design college where all the male teachers were gay. I would have been a bunny in the headlights!
This is FLAWLESS.
I was so lucky to never have to watch a friend of mine fall for a douchebagel like this. In fact, I don't know a single woman at my school who did (which isn't to say there are none, but it was a relatively small school). I know professors who tried, but they failed.
Perhaps this is also a good place to note that I think it's about time the literary trope of "innocent young woman falling in love with broken older male professor" can die a well-deserved death.
"Douchebagel"! Thank you for bestowing that gift upon me.
That was meeee! Yes, that was meeee. All in. Corner office and all.
…
I'm gay now though, so.
A+ illustration.
I'm guessing that neither Hank nor Smitty looks remotely like Harrison Ford in a bow tie.
I went to a women's college and had a ton of male literature professors, and thankfully all but one were not in the least bit creepy. (One had consistently sexual interpretations of everything we were reading, which, suuuuure, maybe, but at least he didn't talk about anyone's personal life, his or otherwise.) On the other hand, I know one of my professors married a student (an older student, not a just-got-out-of-high-school student) a few years before I got there.
Other women's college graduates, did you have skeevy professors on par with co-ed schools? I wish we had a skeevy professor index to use as a comparison point.
ehhhhhhhhn. We had a marriage "scandal" too but I can't remember if she was an MFA or not the big drama was, of course, that the wife he was married to before 2nd ex-student wife still TAUGHT IN THE PROGRAM. ETA: he was a big "experimental poet" proponent, and all the visiting experimental poets were skeevy as get out.
that might've been it though. and actually my only professor (now friend/mentor) who taught me the literatures was gay, so. what about TAs??
I don't think so, but then I was (am) pretty oblivious to that kind of thing. There was one professor/student affair that became so well-known that even I heard about it, though. His wife started working at the school afterwards!
haha pretty sure i went to the same school.
i think i might have as well
Molly drugs and Pokemon are my new Facebook interests FYI.
Pokemons, pop. Pokemons.
"Oh, Jack. The plural of Pokemon is Pokemon."
Male professors are just aging Squirtles in our Pokemon.
The "kill your male mentors" tag! A+ would laugh again!
Also, I just thought of Paris Gellar and her elderly professor, and of Kelly Kapowski and Professor Lasky.
OH GOD KELLY KAPOWSKI. When those episodes aired I was in high school and was all "sure this is totally fine." I couldn't fully experience the ick until I turned 30 and looked back.
Never look back.
They even hired the guy who always plays skeezy professors/authority figures (aka Patrick Fabian aka skeezy prof from Veronica Mars season 3). Everytime he shows up my tv I prepare myself to view some uncomfortable power exchanges/ possible statutory rape.
Paris and Professor Fleming! That was so excellent. Especially because it gave Lorelei the opportunity of saying "Well, they'll always have Paris" and Rory replying "Wow, how long have you been sitting on that?"
Oh god. I just remembered that in high school the one who went on to marry one of his daughter's classmates told us the story of how he impressed his wife with the Pigeon Test, you know, the one about feeding them randomly in relation to work so they'd be really into you and work SUPER HARD to impress you, this was framed as dating advice for how to handle boys, I thought I'd repressed this but no that really did happen.
The fired-for-taking-the-ski-team-drinking one happened, too.
Jesus H. God, no wonder I stopped having male professors as soon as possible.
Huh. I never had creepy male professors in college. Lucky, I guess?
Very.
Extraordinarily. Maybe I had all of yours for you?
Compare a bunch of literatures at each other.
Maybe cuz Canada, but I never had a creepy male English professor (and I was an English major!). But I also never interacted with my profs unless I had to. That definitely helps.
My sister had a boss while she was in univ who was like this though. He made her call him eery night with the sales figures or something (my face when she told me this: O.o), and then used her number to drunk text her, and things got so bad that she eventually had to leave. Oh, and of course his wife hated her, even though she didn't do anything wrong. So looks like they're branching out.
I didn't have creepy male English professors either, but I had a couple of creepy older male French professors. And one very young (23) male French professor who was not openly creepy, really, but who did once get drunk at a French society mixer and loudly proclaim that he chose to major in French because the classes were 90% female.
I didn't take English, and am Canadian, so maybe I dodged that bullet. There was an chem professor about half the female portion of the class had crushes on, but he was also very obviously uncomfortable with that. I also had a creepy grad school Resource Management prof. Here's a tip, Creepy Prof: if you're going to drunkenly holler at me across a campus hallway, at least get my name right.
I can't even. Using "Pedagogy of the Oppressed" as the book of seduction = Nail (no pun intended) + Head (no pun intended). For real, I took class from a "Hank" who used this book!!!
FADE TO BLACK
STOPS FADING TO BLACK, TWEETS A MILLION TIMES
NO REALLY, FADING TO BLACK NOW
NO WAIT, JUST KIDDING, MORE GROSS DETAILS
SERIOUSLY, FADES TO BLACK
…FOR NOW
STARTS TWEETING AGAIN WHEN AGHAST AT LACK OF INTEREST IN THE NON-TWEETING
BTW, I SLEPT WITH LOTS OF WOMEN!
Were any of them attractive residents of Munich?
There were so many tweets, so many. It made for a rather depressing lunch hour today as I tried to catch up.
I had high school teachers like this. One told me I seemed "really mature for my age" and loaned me a book with his phone number in it when I was in 9th grade. And therefore 14 years old. With my hair in braids. (Okay, my hair is still in braids now, but back then it was in two braids on the sides of my head with Love-in-Tokyo hair bands.) Fortunately, the thing about being 14 was that I saw a teacher's phone number in the inside of a book, and all I thought was, "He didn't put in the area code; I guess he never leaves the county."
D: bullet: dodged. well done you!
Thanks. I wasn't even his student that year; I was the next year. A teaching assignment he probably rued, because he was a truly terrible teacher and I had no qualms about letting him know. May actually have walked out of class when he called Daisy in Gatsby a bitch. Or maybe it was when he said there was no point in reading the end of Huck Finn; who knows.
You are my hero. Every high school should come equipped with at least one of you.
HANK: “Or I take her aside the second or third week and tell her I think she’s got real potential, real potential for greatness, then after she disagrees with me about something real minor…[laughs]…minor…I tell her I’m disappointed in her lack of open-mindedness and give her a C.”
GAH. This made me cringe about Julie Taylor all over again.
UGH now I just remembered that!!! Guess it's time for me to rewatch the whole series on Netflix while sobbing in bed. Texas forever.
It's the perfect show for fall and sobbing uncontrollably.
Oh wow. I never had a professor like this (although looking back I didn't really have a lot of male professors) but I had a middle school art teacher who was exactly like this. We all thought he was creepy and sad and he used to give weird back rubs to the female students (we were like 12 at the time) while critiquing our work and there were rumors about him hooking with students that we never totally believed until one day one of my friends went to drop off an assignment after hours and walked in on him making out with one of the high school kids just weeks after his wife had given birth. So yeah.
Ohhhh and I had a creepy study abroad advisor in college who used to hit on all the female students (and become bffs with the male students) and when I sternly told him I didn't appreciate him putting his hands on me he went on this long thing about how I was being uptight that involved asking me weirdly personal questions about whether I let other boys touch me. And when I complained he said that that's just how they do things in Latin America.
Which, wtf? Half my family is from Latin America (different country, but still) and somehow we've all managed to not sexually harass anyone. And of course, once again I told no one (I wish there was a way to do this anonymously) because everyone adored him and I didn't want to make things difficult.
I'm laughing, but on the other hand I'm also like, the Misandrist Revolution cannot come soon enough….
Unfortunately, I have waaaay too many stories relating to this. I had two teachers in high school that were involved in student-teacher relations/scandals (one of whom made passes at my best friend, which she ignored, before he moved on to the next girl), and I can think of rumors of at least three others. And, just before I got there, a basketball coach at this same high school ran away with a young girl to Mexico.
In college, I admired a suave bachelor professor to a fault, but it resulted in a public embarrassment, and he was not the kind to prey upon impressionables. But then I had a French film professor that would constantly make sexist / sex-related comments, so much so that I stopped going to class, failed to turn in assignments, and didn't take the final. He passed me anyways.
Ugh. Misandry forever.
When did misandry become a positive thing? I'm a little confused. Misandry isn't the solution to anything.
Misandry solves everything. It became a positive thing in 1974, shortly after lunch.
These are the professors who change their names, Keeping Up Appearances-like, from "Christopher" and "Steven" to "Christoph" and "Stefan."
I know it's wrong, but I want to see more of the adventures of Hank and Smitty. There's a tag! It must be used!
You are speaking directly to my soul Mallory. I work in higher ed with too many people like this (however I will defend tenure with the last breath in my body as it is most useful for women and minorities who have opinions). When I see this type of behavior going on I internally seethe "FEMINISM IS WORKING" and look forward to the demise of the gray old man who doesn't know how to attach a fucking document to an email but says he's "concerned" with the "back talk" from women in his class.
High school art teacher. All of my male professors were great, but my high school art teacher (10th grade) was very creepy. I was in 10th grade and I was the only girl in my art class. He gave me a lot of attention and praised and displayed my work, but there was always a creepy suggestion to his attention. He was more overt with some of my friends in another class, but luckily they were not forced to be alone with him and could team up together to oppose him. He liked to draw large, sultry naked women at the front of the room while we worked. Eventually a Swedish exchange student joined the class, and he stopped paying so much attention to me. It was always creepy in a way that was hard to describe to other people, so I didn't say anything to my parents or administrators.
The next year he was fired for telling a girl she would look good in a painting smock, a thong, and nothing else.
Late as usual, but I never had creepy uni professors, my creepiest teacher was my year 12 Japanese teacher at high school.
I remember his telling us he got into teaching Japanese for the women, because Japanese women wear very short skirts, and also him showing us a borderline soft porn Japanese movie in class…half of it was a normal story about a women trying to find the best ramen recipe to open her own noodle shop, interspersed with random scenes of what I can only describe as porn with food…we thought it was pretty funny at the time…but looking back, what on earth was out teacher playing at?!
Tampopo! That's a great movie! Maybe not for high school, but worth rewatching! (PS hi, newly delurking)
ah, I can never remember what's it's called! Yeah, I wouldn't mind re-watching it, I just remember thinking at the time that it was so inappropriate to be showing to a bunch of high school kids! The bit with the shrimp under the bowl on the woman's stomach freaked me out, I just remember thinking, what if it tried to burrow downwards!
I was the adoring teacher's pet of three professors (2 in history, one in government) who had terrible reputations – one was actually nicknamed Action Jackson (not his real last name) – but never had a Hank or Smitty moment with any of them. Sometimes it's great to be merely "pleasant faced," as L.M.M. would put it.
HANK: [pointing to himself] “Me, I get older, but they stay the same a…same amount of uncomfortable with my forward and personal behavior.”
Perfection.
"The two of them enjoy a quiet pill."
I have not finished reading, but I had to stampede down here to shout about how amazing this line is.
Ok. As you were.
Also: I never had this professor. My male professors were…normal? Well, non-predatorial, anyway. Not in undergrad (large state school) or 6 years of grad school (tiny private school). We didn't even have a "that guy" in the English department. At least not that I heard of (wait, was no one telling me the good gossip??) We did have a professor who was a founding member of Berlin, and that was cool. Also, one completely socially awkward professor who wore a pirate shirt to class, but said brilliant things while wearing that pirate shirt and giving paper comments like "Your writing has potential but not promise," and one day he answered a panel question with this beautiful speech about how we study literature because we inhabit the books we love, and they inhabit us. And everyone wept.
I guess maybe my experience was atypical.
"The two of them enjoy a quiet pill." DEAD. Still a wisecracking bastard I see!!
Ugh, I ended up switching subjects in high school due to a male teacher who just couldn't stop and I was not capable of handling it – probably because I WAS SIXTEEN.
Had a few more of these kinds of profs at uni too. My favourite is the one who insults you by implying that women are naturally inferior scientists AND STILL CONTINUES TO EXPECT YOUR ADMIRATION AND DEVOTION!!! (THAT DID NOT EVEN EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE.) I mean come on, just how fucking silly with privilege and entitlement can a person be.
Yuck. This is my tenth grade English teacher all over again. Oozing praise and attention, smothering uncomfortably close and attentive, offering all manner of special attention and advice. Later fired for molesting a different boy. I narrowly dodged a bullet there, but it still bothers me that while I knew what he was up to, it never occurred to me that he was grooming other students to try to molest them too, so while I steered my own way out of danger, I never spoke up when it might have helped others.
Besides, this was the 90s. I thought if I reported being sexually harassed by a male teacher I wouldn't be believed and I'd face even more bullying. Oh the homophobic, silencing, harasser-enabling, horrible 1990s. How I don't miss them.
The self-replicating cycle is that, when you get to college and can begin to really analyze literature, you discover it is, indeed, all about sex. Therefore what kind of young men become English majors and eventually English professors? OK, I'm guilty– though I've only been in middle and high school, and not likely for much longer. Truthfully, for men, becoming an English major is the liberal arts equivalent of a medical student choosing to specialize in gynecology.
I am imagining this in the voices that Brendan and Jason from Home Movies use during the Hungry Hot episode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytRcqJ_CfhY
"Even their elbow patches look tired."
CLASSIC!
Love the OP! I know this post is late–I just stumbled across this and hope someone will see this and can tell me if there's a women's group that can offer advice about dealing with predatory profs who manage to stay under the radar and are dearly loved by their see-no-evil, hear-no-evil peers and admin. We have a live one at my school, and he's too calculated for a sexual harassment charge. His targets become complicit–seriously, he's a convincing, sick fuck–and they're often married (as is he). I know of two–myself and a friend of mine–and both are silenced because of obvious fears/concerns (I suspected she had been targeted, so I shared my experience, and then she shared hers). Basically: is there anywhere to turn for sound advice when Title Nine only exasperates your already painful absence of power? I made mistakes (choices based on his intentional deceptions), but that doesn't mean he should have no accountability for his predatorial manipulation of his students and the mentee/mentor energy.. At least I hope not. Thanks in advance for any contact suggestions.